Recommend Skill to use before healing my Warrior?? - Guild Wars Forums

Boagrius · Feb 16, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

I have a W/E. Knowing what I know now, I would have picked a W/M.

I have -40 armor while using my healing signet. If I try to heal myself while in the middle of a battle it usually does more harm then good! Can anyone recommend a good skill to use before I attempt to heal myself? One that will offer some added protection while I suffer from the -40 armor. I???ve tried a few (like Bonetti's Defense) & they seem to be cancelled out by the healing signet. Thanks again!

Cherno · Feb 16, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Many use Dolyak Signet in solo builds

quickmonty · Feb 16, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Just a thought ..... with ele secondary you could use a skill that increases armor. Kinetic armor comes to mind. Or just try some of the warrior defensive stances that blocks attacks.

Boagrius · Feb 16, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I thought a Signet will stack with stances and shouts. I'v tried Bonetti's (which is great), but it seems that it is cancelled when I use the Healing Signet. Correct me if im wrong.

Maybe I'll have to double check that.

sh4ft3d · Feb 16, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

It is cancelled AFTER you finish the sig.
Therefore giving you time to evade(block, sorry)
almost all of melee damage.
EDIT: I have tested while farming.

Racthoh · Feb 16, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Bonetti's will be canceled if you use Healing Signet.

Watch Yourself! is always the first thing to comes to mind, along with Dolyak Signet. Watch Yourself! more so since you can keep it up pretty much all the time, and cuts that -40 to -20. Dolyak Signet is pretty much good in all situations, problem is it isn't very party friendly if you lose aggro.

The net gain probably doesn't look that impressive if your tactics attribute is low. Consider pumping more points into it for a larger gain even after the pain.

DeanBB · Feb 16, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Armor of earth is good with even a low earth investment but it is an enchantment (which can get stripped), costs energy and also causes you to move slow.

There are other defensive stances that do not end with the use of a signet, read the descriptions to find which ones you have available.

The advantage of a +armor skill vs defensive stance is that it is effective against many damaging spells as well as attacks.

Daena · Feb 16, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Can I ask what level your warrior is, and where (location) in the game you are at with him/her? Cause once you ascend.. you can just change your secondary profession to whatever you like.. which really is the easy way out

Anyway, only skill i can think of with a low casting time is Doylak's signet, though it slows down movement with 75% which can be a pain.. so it has to be used well also armor of earth (see posts of others here).

Cherno · Feb 16, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25

I can't think of it right now, but I thought there was another stance that I just capped recently that was very similar to Dolyaks but only slowed you 50%. Can't remember now.

H2BH · Aug 06, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36

w/e use ice in pve for forzen bust/armor of mist or mist form and u will be fine

Livingston · Aug 06, 2006, 04:14 PM // 16:14

If you are wanting something solely to cover you during healing signet, try out disciplined stance. It won't come off until your heal is over.

Livingston

shadow39365 · Aug 06, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

to be honest if your in a group and trying heal sig, don't bother, have faith in the monks, they will heal you, seriously, Healing Signet is not good in a group, your actually making the monk's job harder by trying to heal yourself, as for solo don't hit heal sig when your health drops below 50 or whatever, use it at regular intervals when your health gets down to X you can estimate the damage you will take and then heal up almost to full if you use the sig at that time.

For example soloing the Spider Cave in FoW i usually have around 500 Health, my heal sig heals for 130 so i use it at about 400, drop about 20 and heal to full, although you have lots of armour, its best not to get lazy with your heal sig, make sure you use it at the right time.

but i still think you should drop heal sig if your in a group (with monks).

But seeing as you want an answer Shield Stance is pretty nice these days, long duration and if your tanking properly the -33% speed doesn't affect you, it will cover you for plenty of Heal Sigs

If you were running something like Physical Resistance (making sure you don't drop too much Ele armour), and then Heal Sig just drops you to normal armour anyway, best to test out though and see which one suits you best and btw Dolyak is nice but if you lose aggro things can go quite wrong.

The Herbalizer · Aug 06, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

In low lvl areas as a warrior which is lvl 20 heal sig is not a problem to use as you barely take any dmg anyway.

To get around the -40 armor while using heal sig consider using skill which boost armor e.g.

Watch Yourself = +20 Armor To Party. warrior skill

Armor of Earth = Tons of Armor. ele elite

Obsidian Flesh = Tons of Armor and cannot be target of spells i think. is an ele elite.

Dolyak Signet = +xx armor but you move slower.

dargon · Aug 06, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Personally, I recommend frenzy, that way your opponent can hit you for a godly amount of damage and feel all warm and fuzzy inside

Feb 16, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29	#1
Boagrius Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Guild: DARK WOLVES DEN [WOLF] Profession: W/Mo	Recommend Skill to use before healing my Warrior?? I have a W/E. Knowing what I know now, I would have picked a W/M. I have -40 armor while using my healing signet. If I try to heal myself while in the middle of a battle it usually does more harm then good! Can anyone recommend a good skill to use before I attempt to heal myself? One that will offer some added protection while I suffer from the -40 armor. I???ve tried a few (like Bonetti's Defense) & they seem to be cancelled out by the healing signet. Thanks again!

Feb 16, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40	#4
Boagrius Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Guild: DARK WOLVES DEN [WOLF] Profession: W/Mo	I thought a Signet will stack with stances and shouts. I'v tried Bonetti's (which is great), but it seems that it is cancelled when I use the Healing Signet. Correct me if im wrong. Maybe I'll have to double check that. Last edited by Boagrius; Feb 16, 2006 at 05:47 PM // 17:47..

Feb 16, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35	#2
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	Many use Dolyak Signet in solo builds

Feb 16, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#3
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Just a thought ..... with ele secondary you could use a skill that increases armor. Kinetic armor comes to mind. Or just try some of the warrior defensive stances that blocks attacks.

Feb 16, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#5
sh4ft3d Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away... Guild: Frank Ought To Monk [FotM] Profession: W/	It is cancelled AFTER you finish the sig. Therefore giving you time to evade(block, sorry) almost all of melee damage. EDIT: I have tested while farming.

Feb 16, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#6
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	Bonetti's will be canceled if you use Healing Signet. Watch Yourself! is always the first thing to comes to mind, along with Dolyak Signet. Watch Yourself! more so since you can keep it up pretty much all the time, and cuts that -40 to -20. Dolyak Signet is pretty much good in all situations, problem is it isn't very party friendly if you lose aggro. The net gain probably doesn't look that impressive if your tactics attribute is low. Consider pumping more points into it for a larger gain even after the pain.

Feb 16, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53	#7
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Armor of earth is good with even a low earth investment but it is an enchantment (which can get stripped), costs energy and also causes you to move slow. There are other defensive stances that do not end with the use of a signet, read the descriptions to find which ones you have available. The advantage of a +armor skill vs defensive stance is that it is effective against many damaging spells as well as attacks.

Feb 16, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#8
Daena Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005	Can I ask what level your warrior is, and where (location) in the game you are at with him/her? Cause once you ascend.. you can just change your secondary profession to whatever you like.. which really is the easy way out Anyway, only skill i can think of with a low casting time is Doylak's signet, though it slows down movement with 75% which can be a pain.. so it has to be used well also armor of earth (see posts of others here).

Feb 16, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#9
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	I can't think of it right now, but I thought there was another stance that I just capped recently that was very similar to Dolyaks but only slowed you 50%. Can't remember now.

Aug 06, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36	#10
H2BH Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: AoE Profession: Mo/A	w/e use ice in pve for forzen bust/armor of mist or mist form and u will be fine

Aug 06, 2006, 04:14 PM // 16:14	#11
Livingston Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Edge of the World Guild: [L] [GET]	If you are wanting something solely to cover you during healing signet, try out disciplined stance. It won't come off until your heal is over. Livingston

Aug 06, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29	#12
shadow39365 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Guild: Angels Symphonys [AnSy]	to be honest if your in a group and trying heal sig, don't bother, have faith in the monks, they will heal you, seriously, Healing Signet is not good in a group, your actually making the monk's job harder by trying to heal yourself, as for solo don't hit heal sig when your health drops below 50 or whatever, use it at regular intervals when your health gets down to X you can estimate the damage you will take and then heal up almost to full if you use the sig at that time. For example soloing the Spider Cave in FoW i usually have around 500 Health, my heal sig heals for 130 so i use it at about 400, drop about 20 and heal to full, although you have lots of armour, its best not to get lazy with your heal sig, make sure you use it at the right time. but i still think you should drop heal sig if your in a group (with monks). But seeing as you want an answer Shield Stance is pretty nice these days, long duration and if your tanking properly the -33% speed doesn't affect you, it will cover you for plenty of Heal Sigs If you were running something like Physical Resistance (making sure you don't drop too much Ele armour), and then Heal Sig just drops you to normal armour anyway, best to test out though and see which one suits you best and btw Dolyak is nice but if you lose aggro things can go quite wrong.

Aug 06, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#13
The Herbalizer <3 Ecto Join Date: Jul 2005	In low lvl areas as a warrior which is lvl 20 heal sig is not a problem to use as you barely take any dmg anyway. To get around the -40 armor while using heal sig consider using skill which boost armor e.g. Watch Yourself = +20 Armor To Party. warrior skill Armor of Earth = Tons of Armor. ele elite Obsidian Flesh = Tons of Armor and cannot be target of spells i think. is an ele elite. Dolyak Signet = +xx armor but you move slower.

Aug 06, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18	#14
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Personally, I recommend frenzy, that way your opponent can hit you for a godly amount of damage and feel all warm and fuzzy inside